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11.1.3 Floppy Jumper


Die Jumper an Atari Floppy Laufwerken



Hier finden Sie alle relevanten Jumpersettings für die von Atari verbauten Diskettenlaufwerke in allen Computertypen.

Here you found any jumper setting of all Atari relevant disc drives.



Tabelle 64: Floppy Drive Jumper Settings
Atari No Drive Type Manufactur Computer Jumpertable
C070350-002 720KB TDK 1040STe/STFM DS 0/1 = no Jumper!
C103043-001 720KB Epson SMD-400/SMD480L 1040ST DS (0)/1 = 0 is active!
C103043-001 720KB Epson SMD-480L/SMD480L 1040ST/Mega DS (0)/1 = 0 is active!
720KB Epson SMD-380-110) 1040ST/Mega * * * * *#* *
* * * * * * *
720KB Epson SMD-380-101-05 1040ST/Mega * * * * *#* *
* * * * * * *
C103558-001 720KB Epson SMD-380-101 1040ST/Mega * * * * *#* *
* * * * * * *
C103558-003 720KB Epson SMD-380-101-06 1040ST/Mega * * * * *#* *
* * * * * * *
C103558-101 720KB Epson SMD-380-103-01 Stacy * * * * *#* *
* * * * * * *
C301371-101 1.44MB Epson SMD-340-139-01 MegaSTE/TT030 * * * * * *#* *
........#
*#* * * * * * *
C303073-001 1.44MB Epson SMD-340-601-04 Falcon030 * * * * * *#* *
........#
*#* * * * * * *
1.44MB Epson SMD-340-135-06 * * * * * *#* *
........#
*#* * * * * * *
C103294-001 720KB Newtronics/Mitsumi MegaST No jumper
C070352-002 720KB Chinon F-354EAT 1040ST No jumper
720KB Chinon FB-354AA MegaST No jumper



Some words about the floppy cable..

The "twist" on some cables allows BOTH drives to be physically set to Device 1. The "twisted" section reverses the drive select lines so one drive responds as Device 0, even though its jumpers are set for Device 1.

A standard PC type 3.5" disk drive use Pin 10 for drive select 0 and Pin 12 for drive select 1.

The "twisted" section of cable on a PC floppy drive cable is actually 6 wires wide- I'm not sure exactly why they reverse that many wires, but for the Atari it may just be a matter of reversing 10 and 12.

The reason IBM did this with the jumpers and twisted cables was that back when they first introduced the IBM Personal Computer, most systems were sold with only one floppy drive (and no hard drive) because they were so expensive. Then when people discovered they couldn't do much with a single floppy system, they would have the second floppy drive added. As long as it was done by an "official" IBM tech person, there was no problem.

But when people started buying the floppy drives by themselves and trying to install them, the drives wouldn't work.

Rather than trying to explain to thousands of irate computer owners how to change jumpers on their new floppy drives, IBM came up with a way to allow ALL drives to be set the same, so no one ever had to change the Device select jumpers. Because the normal situation was someone trying to add a "B" drive, they started shipping ALL floppy drives with the jumper set to "Device 1" , and developed the twisted cable that allowed the drives to also respond as Device 0 in the original installations.

Since the twisted cable became standard, the jumpers on the drives themselves were superfluous and as you've seen, have finally been removed from most designs available today.

In answer to some question about internal solder pad jumpers, there's no real way to tell if they're present or not without the data sheet (or taking the drive apart). I don't know just how common they are, or indeed if there are drives that don't have any provision for changing the Device number at all. I guess you could try opening the drive you finally end up getting, and keep the "cable twist" idea as a backup.

As example i need to get hold of a new disk drive for use with my STe, for both HD and DD modes, following my own instructions on this subject which I did a few years back.

The problem of course if finding one with jumpers to select between drive 0 and 1.

As far as I remember PC drives have this set to "Drive 1" (or "1") while Ataris need it set to "Drive 0" or "0". Very few drives nowadays have jumpers, but when I was fiddling around with this stuff I remember that although drives didn't have jumpers, most of them had small 0 Ohm SMD resistors soldered on the circuit board, which could be re-soldered to another position. My question is if this is common on ALL 3.5" disk drives?

I'm asking because I can't very well ask the dealer to open up the drive to expose the circuit board before purchasing. The particular drive I'm possibly buying is a Sony MPF-920-E/131. Anyone know anything about this one, or 3.5" disk drives in general?



Actually, "Master" and "Slave" are terms which only apply to IDE hard drives, not floppy drives!

The settings on a floppy are Device 0 or Device 1.

Unfortunately, as you say, ALL 3.5" floppy drives available today come pre-set to Device 1. Also, as you've noted, most drives no longer have any convenient way to change the Device setting because no one ever used it anyway, so manufacturers simply stopped spending the money on jumpers, headers and circuit board real estate to support the easy changing of Device numbers.

The ONLY sure way to know ahead of actually purchasing a drive, assuming you don't find a store that will let you rip one open, would be to obtain the data sheet for the drive from the manufacturer.

I haven't looked specifically for floppy drive data sheets, but most hard drive manufacturers have this information easily available on their web sites. It comes in very handy for the occasional obscure brand or model whose jumpers are hidden or not marked. If you're lucky, similar info may be available for floppy drives.

Failing that-

You've no doubt seen the floppy drive cable on an IBM compatible system with the "twist" cut out section of cable.

The "twist" allows BOTH drives to be physically set to Device 1. The "twisted" section reverses the drive select lines so one drive responds as Device 0, even though its jumpers are set for Device 1. As a "last resort", "bottom of the barrel", "necessity is the mother of invention" solution, you COULD rewire the Atari drive cable to simulate this "twist" and allow a standard Device 1 3.5" drive to respond as Device 0.

Then ANY available 3.5" drive would work without modification!

You'd should have a look to the diagram of the IBM floppy cable in archive to study- once you see how the reversing of the signals is done it's easier to understand.

There's also a very SLIM possibility that you might be able to obtain a floppy drive cable which was originally used to connect QIC-80 style tape drives which had the normal floppy drive female connectors, but which also had a male connector on it to allow the tape drive to be inserted into the cable. This could serve as an "adapter" which would eliminate the need to do ANY rewiring of the Atari cable. The cable from the Atari would plug into the male tape drive connector and the new floppy drive would plug into the "A" drive connector. The floppy drive cable already has the "twist" needed, and you should be up and running.

The problem would be locating a dinosaur cable.

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dennis.vermeire@wanadoo.be
http://www.cix.co.uk/ derryck/index.htm



SMD 380 einbauen..

Das SMD-380er ist ein DD-Laufwerk.

Für HD-Betrieb das SMD-340 benutzen und in Atari TT, Mega den Dipswitch 7 auf "ON" stellen.


Leuchtet nach dem Anschluß die Floppy-LED konstant und der Rechner erkennt das Diskettenlaufwerk nicht, ist das ein Problem mit dem Flachbandkabel. Interessanterweise wird das Flachbandkabel bei dem SMD-340 um 180 Grad verdreht aufgesteckt!

Aller Regel nach wird dabei nichts zersört.






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